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		<title>Kosmolinks #16</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Irish ‘no’ and the EU’s “nuclear”option Daniel Gros (CEPS) argues for &#8220;a radical solution – the other EU members should propose to leave the old EU and create a new one with the Lisbon Treaty as its founding document.&#8221; So much for bringing Europe closer to the people Everyone is right and wrong at [...]]]></description>
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<li><a href="http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/1238" target="_blank">The Irish ‘no’ and the EU’s “nuclear”option</a><span class="content"> </span><a href="http://guests.blogactiv.eu/2008/06/16/so-much-for-bringing-europe-closer-to-the-people" target="_blank"></a>
<p class="desc"><span class="content">Daniel Gros (CEPS) argues for &#8220;a radical solution – the other EU members should propose to leave the old EU and create a new one with the Lisbon Treaty as its founding document.&#8221; </span></p>
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<li><a href="http://guests.blogactiv.eu/2008/06/16/so-much-for-bringing-europe-closer-to-the-people" target="_blank"><span class="content">So much for bringing Europe closer to the people</span><br />
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<p class="desc"><span class="content">Everyone is right and wrong at the same time&#8230;a tragic dilemma! </span></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.ecfr.eu/content/entry/commentary_irelands_creative_destruction" target="_blank">The European Council on Foreign Relations | Ireland&#8217;s creative destruction</a><a href="http://guests.blogactiv.eu/2008/06/16/so-much-for-bringing-europe-closer-to-the-people" target="_blank"></a>
<p class="desc"><span class="content">Daniel Korski calls European leaders to save &#8220;one of the main ideas behind the Treaty &#8211; to make the EU a more effective foreign policy player&#8221;. The rest is truly depressing: &#8220;Real business is likely to be pushed aside and a new bout of Euro-pessimism could set in.&#8221; </span></p>
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<p class="diigo-link"><a href="http://www.zeit.de/online/2008/25/europa-montagskolumne-fischer?page=all" target="_blank">Joschka Fischer: Das vereinte Europa ist gescheitert </a><!--title--></p>
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<p class="desc"><span class="content">Joschka Fischer has no hope anymore&#8230;<br />
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<li><a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8dc810e6-3ada-11dd-b1a1-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1" target="_blank">Wolfgang Munchau &#8211; Europe’s hardball plan B for the Lisbon treaty</a><a href="http://guests.blogactiv.eu/2008/06/16/so-much-for-bringing-europe-closer-to-the-people" target="_blank"></a>
<p class="desc"><span class="content">&#8220;An alternative would be a referendum with a differently worded question, such as: “Do you want to remain in the EU on the basis of the Lisbon treaty?” Of course, this bundles two questions many people would like to answer separately. Yes, stay in the EU, No to Lisbon. But folding the two into a single question is politically more honest because it is Ireland’s only real-world choice.&#8221;</span></p>
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<li> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/13/AR2008061302639.html" target="_blank">Robert Kagan &#8211; In Europe, a Slide Toward Irrelevance</a>
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<p class="desc"><span class="content">Robert Kagan&#8217;s take on the Irish &#8216;NO&#8217; &#8211; basically what you would expect from him, but also with a few good points. </span></p>
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<li> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/14/ireland.eu?gusrc=rss&amp;feed=commentisfree" target="_blank">The fear factory devastated Ireland&#8217;s flaccid political class</a>
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<p class="desc"><span class="content">&#8220;You forgot us in Shannon.&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;Our sons are too good-looking for the army&#8221; &#8211;&#8221;right-wing Catholics&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;leftwing anti-militarists&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;a mysterious group that emerged from nowhere with a great deal of money to spend&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;Imported British Euroscepticism&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;a very efficient factory of fears&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;an extensive menu of anxieties&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;the scattergun of negativity only had to hit one sensitive spot&#8221;</span></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/15/eu.ireland" target="_blank"> Will Hutton: Europe must not be derailed by lies and disinformation </a><!--title--><br />
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<p class="desc"><span class="content">&#8220;On top of these there is the political problem that the treaty can&#8217;t be rewritten to accommodate specific Irish concerns because it already does; Ireland&#8217;s &#8216;no&#8217; campaigners told lies. The voters&#8217; great concerns had been met. There is a specific protocol that guarantees Ireland&#8217;s neutrality and excuses it from membership of any joint European defence effort, if any surfaces. There is no possibility of Ireland being told to enforce abortion. And all states have autonomy over tax policy.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p class="diigo-link"><a href="http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/1233">The Irish “no” and the rich-poor/urban-rural divide</a></p>
<p class="diigo-description">&#8220;The Irish ‘no’ – like the 2005 French ‘non’ – shows a clear poor/rich and urban/rural divide. Working-class and rural voters are systematically voting against further European integration. European leaders should take note.&#8221;</p>
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<p class="diigo-link"><a href="http://djnozem.blogspot.com/2008/06/euroblog-coverage-irish-no.html">DJ Nozem: Euroblog Coverage: The Irish &#8216;No&#8217;</a></p>
<p class="diigo-description">A handy round-up about the Irish &#8216;No&#8217; in the blogosphere&#8230;</p>
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